OK, so Obama green lights 30,000 more troops into Afghanistan. Boo fucking hoo. I knew that was gonna happen, he ran on that platform. What really worries me is what’s going on going on in a neighboring continent. I’m talking about AFRICOM. Does anyone realize that the Third World has become an economic proxy war between China / Russia and the U.S. / NATO Europe?
Alex Jones is a quasi-ZOG sensationalist asshole, but the man sure has a point about the U.S. digging deeper into this foreign affairs stuff and having Obama be the ultimate poster boy for the U.S. to occupy various countries throughout Africa, countries that are borderline failed states just ASKING for exploitation. No one’s gonna pull the race card on Obama if he’s starts a war against Africans.
When Al Jazeera runs two full length programs covering future international conflicts, don’t you think maybe it has all really been set up by “The Shadow Machine?” I’m not exactly saying there’s a shadowy elite that runs the ENTIRE WORLD but ultimately the people who actual do run this country certainly do not want us to lag behind China and their exploits.
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Are there any boobs in these videos? At least some good cleavage? Take this shit to BBC, PBS or Foreign Affairs where the readership will care.
12.15.09 at 10:19 am
If this guy wasn’t a Marine you would never print his stuff.
12.15.09 at 10:19 am
the Third World War was and is being fought in the third world. “Between 1945 and 1983 around 19 or 20 million people were killed in around 100 major military conflicts” that is: proxy wars in what we consider third world nations. Add all of the conflicts since then and Tael is right on the money with this prediction.
12.15.09 at 10:36 am
This is retarded. Anyone who reads any newspaper or magazine knows about the quest for resources in Africa. It’s been going on for hundreds of years and only got interesting again with China moving in. Trust me, though, you want the US to be involved, and you want them to beat China. China doesn’t even pretend to care about human rights, homies are all about dollars. At least Americans pretend to care.
Also, your first instinct was right. Not to get all ad hominem, but if you’re paraphrasing alex jones, chances are you’re going to make yourself look like an ass.
12.15.09 at 10:38 am
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2006/05/01/what-about-darfur/
what about darfur? it’s none of our business that’s what about it.
all this world as chess board stuff is another way to wring more money out of the american taxpayer so assholes like dan senor can go eat lobster in exotic places and promote israels interests.
let china run africa. it doesn’t concern me. i live here.
12.15.09 at 10:53 am
Justin Raimondo used 11 commas in one sentence in that Darfur article.
12.15.09 at 11:19 am
is there a law against that?
you use dollar signs for s’s it’s the internet it’s FREEDOM
12.15.09 at 11:23 am
Can somebody edit this asshole’s shit?
12.15.09 at 11:33 am
great. time to hear from the token marine again. at least find one who’s a little more aware; shit find a funny one at least. we’ll never go to actual war in africa or south america – those militaries are so helpless we’ll never need more than a couple noriegas to flip the script. that and china’s already won, damn near our whole economy is borrowed from theirs.
12.15.09 at 11:57 am
I think the Shadow Empire is way more worried about deathklok’s new book tour
12.15.09 at 12:58 pm
I heart (no homo) marines who watch Al-Jazeera.
And its not “Boo-fucking-hoo” we’re in Afganistan, its Hoo-fucking-raa.
Lock that sucker down. Pakistan is starting to get scary. FUCK the taliban running both those countries now or at any time in the near fucking future.
Africa: fuck that fucking place too. China is going to get into a death-match with anyone who cuts them off from that massive exploita-fair.
Also love / hate it how you cant discuss this shit without saying “…Im not saying theres a shadowy elite…” but like fuck there isnt one. you just cant talk about them because you sound like CRAZY-BISCUITS. up your arse
12.15.09 at 1:12 pm
… and to the above comments…
OH My GOD *disgusted face*
….can we not get the angry gawker girls & the wannabe vice minions out of this place for five fucking minutes???????
do you people not have gossip girl to ironically be into or something? or some kind of snobby witty little cutting read-between-the-lines in-jokes / insults about the guy that runs this site that you can slip into your own sites and not come here and do this to this site or whatever it is i my brain tired
12.15.09 at 1:17 pm
Funny thing about AFRICOM, it is and will be headquartered in Germany because no African country will allow it.
12.15.09 at 1:21 pm
“And its not “Boo-fucking-hoo” we’re in Afganistan, its Hoo-fucking-raa.
Lock that sucker down. Pakistan is starting to get scary. FUCK the taliban running both those countries now or at any time in the near fucking future
”
who fucking cares. if they are powerful there is probab;y a good reason for it, namely they have popular support.
why would i care about what happens in the middle east. it’s shithole. I’m a capitalist, I’m interested in doing business with people in an uncoerced manner, not turning backwards people on to that concept. let them enjoy being muslims and stay the hell our of their face
12.15.09 at 2:48 pm
For fucks sake, stick to the dick jokes and drug talk, this shit is fucking awful. Alex Jones??? Are you fucking serious?
12.15.09 at 3:14 pm
Fuck Africom, you guys hear about this Tiger Woods guy?!!!
12.15.09 at 3:30 pm
Like I said, Alex Jones is a sensationalist asshole and again part of various fringe political activists that mostly talk in self righteous indoctrination with matters extremely speculative. But there is a kernel corn of truth to his bullshit and that of others.
I feel Obama is the ideal President to have to pursue strategic military and economic incursions into various countries throughout Africa. In fact, I see it as something bound to happen within his Presidency. The exploitation of Africa is an old past time indeed but it is a matter of importance to consider any level of serious involvement we as a nation MUST have there.
I’m an unapologetic nationalist and ultimately our goal in Africa should be to have priority economic and military ties with countries China does not have already. Even though China has virtually bankrolled us in our current wars they are still an enemy state and an economic competitor. Alliances are already set in stone amongst China, Russia, Iran, and Pakistan. While we are supported by the rest of the free (and not so free) world. WW3 isn’t in the future. It’s happening now.
12.15.09 at 3:46 pm
“I’m an unapologetic nationalist and ultimately our goal in Africa”
“excuse me “our” goal? who is the “we”? you mean YOU? and other people who take my tax dollars?
guess what dude , I don’t give a shit about Africa, if you want to do something for them move there and live there.
“Alliances are already set in stone amongst China, Russia, Iran, and Pakistan. ”
exactly, which is why your africom stuff is nothing more than a recipe for disaster.
you’re right about one thing: ww3 is now. it’s the people of the world vs their governments, especially here, and you’re on the wrong side.
china and Iran are YOUR enemy, not mine and not “ours”
12.15.09 at 4:38 pm
the saddest thing is, taeil’s so stupid he doesn’t even realize he’s stupid. Come on man, even I Am Sam owned up to that shit.
12.15.09 at 5:24 pm
Hey can anyone guess where the Mexican drug cartels get their guns?
12.15.09 at 5:36 pm
Afghanistan is a key spot in the middle east in establishing operations for Caspian sea oil and transport/pipeline. They are already trying to build a supply route for the afghanis. Because america cares about you, Afghanistan.
12.15.09 at 5:38 pm
Why would you preach this kind of complicate shit to hipsters? Their worldview is fucked.
12.15.09 at 6:12 pm
Why would you preach this kind of complicated shit to hipsters? Their worldview is fucked.
12.15.09 at 6:13 pm
Ever notice how fucked up marines seem to be?
12.15.09 at 7:46 pm
Think for yourself.
12.15.09 at 8:09 pm
=== you’re right about one thing: ww3 is now. it’s the people of the world vs their governments, especially here, and you’re on the wrong side.
china and Iran are YOUR enemy, not mine and not “ours” ====
Didn’t you say you were capitalist? Major corporate interests have corrupted our democracy so saying all that about government being the enemy even if it is responsible for upholding YOUR rights through the constitution make you sound like a contradictory dingbat. Not to mention the fact all this “privatization” of government duties delegated towards companies have led to serious problems in our overseas operations. Capitalism has failed in some ways.
I’m sorry but whatever agenda you believe in, I’m sure it’s PEOPLE LIKE YOU who get to say what they say when they are ALLOWED to say what they say. When shit hits the fan you’re not the type of guy who will fight for your beliefs.
You’re more like a left wing Dick Cheney who either runs away from war and conflict while espousing some crazy shit like anarchy or pure libertarianism or whatever future status quo you wish but don’t really want. Again one thing I realize is that hipsters such as yourself are big fucking pussies who ultimately puss out of any real physical harm while doing all this huffing and puffing about “bringing down the government” bullshit. Seriously, most of you guys are gay hater wusses.
12.15.09 at 8:54 pm
Lenin was right about the (obvious) notion that the rich will take advantage of the poor (and use them to fight their wars). Fucking duh.
What he was wrong about is that, in many instances, these colonial exploitations (and resulting wars) strengthen people and cultures by coercing nations to action so that they decide to take control of their own destiny. Then the formerly oppressed can take advantage of the weaker nations in order to secure their own safety and well being in the future.
This system of exploitation isn’t unique to the capitalist model. It’s part of the human condition; we are competitive organisms in a world with unpredictable disasters, limited space and resources, and a genetic code that dictates much of our behavior.
The real question in the debate between progressive naifs and cynical realists is, “How should we go about convincing the unter-peoples to get on board with ‘progress?” Should we use capitalism to take advantage, to raise their standard of living and make them greedy? Or should we enlighten them with feel-good mantras and submission to an artificially created sense of ‘altruism’ until they throw off the chains?
War is an inevitability. It will continue to be until we’ve actually evolved scientifically/technologically to the point where human violence is no longer a necessary part of man’s existence.
12.15.09 at 9:17 pm
Also Alex Jones is a peckerface who does nothing but increase the natural paranoia and suspicion that people are already prone to. He’s all over the place with his conspiracy theories and there are too many contradictions/revisions to his grand tales to keep track of.
It clouds the issue and distracts truly curious people from seeing the world for what it is.
12.15.09 at 9:21 pm
Err, so China swapped some guns for Sudanese oil..? I am SO shocked, because there is no way any other country would do such a thing if they had the chance!
12.15.09 at 11:13 pm
Gavin is the guy who “runs this site.”
12.16.09 at 12:41 am
“it is responsible for upholding YOUR rights through the constitution make you sound like a contradictory ”
yeah, because the government holds up my rights I should be pro government. is that seriously your argument? I’ll pretend i didn’t hear that
“When shit hits the fan you’re not the type of guy who will fight for your beliefs”
that’s what i’m doing right now by telling you to what I think of your NWO sky is falling b.s.
you can’t have anymore of my tax dollars. get it through our head. No ones buying what your selling. there were no unmanned UAV’s with anthrax in Iraq and there’s no titanic srtuggle for Africas resources that means we have to spend MORE than our already ludicrous military budget.
your ideas are all different ways of stealing from americans. you and the think tank nutjobs you probably idolize are parasites. the Council on foregin relations were the ones who said that vietnam simply had to be “protected”.
if there is true evil in the world today it is people who think the way you do.
and sorry but I just don’t hate chinese and iranian people. I think their countries and cultures and history are fascinating and have nothing against them. isn’t that incredible? I don’t hate them. at all. am I NUTS or what?
“Again one thing I realize is that hipsters such as yourself are big fucking pussies who ultimately puss out of any real physical harm while doing all this huffing and puffing about “bringing down the government” bullshit.”
lol
12.16.09 at 10:29 am
lenin- actually you have no idea what you are talking abuot. imperialism has nothing to do with capitalism. your philosphy which is essentially hate the man who is better off than you, is a broken clock that’s right twice a day.
12.16.09 at 10:32 am
I hate Africa.
12.16.09 at 4:41 pm
==that’s what i’m doing right now by telling you to what I think of your NWO sky is falling b.s.==
If you actually READ what I wrote. I clearly stated the “New World Order” crap is just that—- fucking crap. All I stated is that there is futility in the democratic system and our government is ultimately run by an inconspicuous elite but they only run things in what is going on in THIS country. Again we don’t control China and Russia and they are very openly anti-democratic and wouldn’t think twice about invading countries, set up puppet governments, and exploit such countries for themselves for their economic benefit.
It is best for our society and the world as a whole that we have economic domination over them so that they will not reign supreme while we degrade fall apart and suffer through social unrest. You can argue US is an exploitative empire but we are much more benevolent than what enemy nations would rather create. After all, we saved the European world from fascism, Nazism, and communism at the end of WWII.
And you do realize our occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan is preventing us from suffering through hyperinflation right? Even with all the money we put into these wars, it’s curbed by the fact we occupy these countries and their economies are backed by our dollar.
If we left, these nations will surely collapse and be taken over by powers who hate our guts and will exclusively trade with powers acting against us. China being the main guys. If well intentioned folks like you get what you want, you’ll see the US turn into the new Weimar Republic with the American dollar dwindled down to the value of a sheet of toilet paper. You’ll then see this country turn to REAL government extremism (either by left wing or right wing forces) and that’s something you and I definitely don’t want or survive.
12.16.09 at 4:57 pm
taeil…this is why military types are discouraged from broadcasting their opinions on the internet. arguing with a bunch of assholes who live a comfortable existence, never knowing what it’s like to get shot at or blown up is a losing proposition. drive on, hooah?
12.16.09 at 9:13 pm
also, this: http://www.newsline.com.pk/NewsJan2009/cover2jan2009.htm
12.16.09 at 9:15 pm
Thanks for posting this. Obama is a puppet working for the shadow machine. Read the New York Times, Business and Politics section. The truth is all there.
12.16.09 at 9:24 pm
Yeah you got a point Eleven. I just like bumming people out though.
12.16.09 at 9:39 pm
“Again we don’t control China and Russia and they are very openly anti-democratic and wouldn’t think twice about invading countries, set up puppet governments, and exploit such countries for themselves for their economic benefit. ”
as opposed to who, us?
“It is best for our society and the world as a whole that we have economic domination over them ”
lol. is this guy for real?
“After all, we saved the European world from fascism, Nazism, and communism at the end of WWII.”
we were allied with stalin. we “saved” eastern europe and allowed them decades of harsh life under the iron curtain.
fascism and communism didn’t just arise across the lan and we fought it back in this mythical struggle. there was a worldwide trend towards big government that manifested itself in stalin, mussolini, hitler and , yes , FDR who was thankfully kept somewhat in check by our consititution.
I would have been just as content to allow germany and russia to battle it out in ww2. my grandfather probbaly wouldn’t have drank himself to death over the horror of bombing german cities into dust. attacking civilian centers to effect the central government aka terrorism.
“And you do realize our occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan is preventing us from suffering through hyperinflation right? Even with all the money we put into these wars, it’s curbed by the fact we occupy these countries and their economies are backed by our dollar.”
??? inflation is literally the printing of money “inflating ” the money supply. the dollar has lost a staggering amount of it’s worth since 200.
gold was 300 dollars an ounce in 200. it’s is now 1140 dollar an ounce. it’s the same gold, it hasn’t expanded or regenerated. that’s pure inflation. our wars have CAUSED that not prevented it.
“If we left, these nations will surely collapse and be taken over by powers who hate our guts and will exclusively trade with powers acting against us.”
saudi arabia are the ones funding all the mosques and madrasses that indoctorinate terrorists and they do it by selling oil that we buy and by staying in power to do this held in place by us (which itself causes MORE resentment as the PEOPLE in these countries HATE the people we are holding in power artificially, egypt, saudi, etc)
they’re offical state religion is wahabism. what is going to come into power that’s worse than that? cannibals?
the only thing these countries “trade” is oil which is fungible. if they sell exculsively to, say, russia, we can buy that much more from canada or venezuela, it’s all the same market.
and they would never do that they need to sell oil. they can’t eat it. they drove russia out of afghanistan, they don’t care about any of this political stuff.
“you’ll see the US turn into the new Weimar Republic with the American dollar dwindled down to the value of a sheet of toilet paper. ”
good. we’ll use gold or euros. the dollar has been little but a mechanism for the people in the green zone, aka the beltway, to dilute and steal from us for their various nefarious schemes. let the dollar die
12.17.09 at 11:28 am
Have you guys ever heard of the concept of a counterinsurgency? That is what the Sudanese government was up to. There was a fucking rebellion over there. They didn’t have the resources to run it properly so they outsourced it to a bunch of backwoods camel riders, the janjawiid. Read Mamdani or De Waal for some actual facts on the conflict.
12.27.09 at 11:26 pm
**lol. is this guy for real? **
Um. Yeah.
**we were allied with stalin. we “saved” eastern europe and allowed them decades of harsh life under the iron curtain.**
So life under Hitler or Stalin would have been way cooler for ALL of Europe?
**I would have been just as content to allow germany and russia to battle it out in ww2. my grandfather probbaly wouldn’t have drank himself to death over the horror of bombing german cities into dust. attacking civilian centers to effect the central government aka terrorism.**
C’est la guerre.
**gold was 300 dollars an ounce in 200. it’s is now 1140 dollar an ounce. it’s the same gold, it hasn’t expanded or regenerated. that’s pure inflation. our wars have CAUSED that not prevented it.**
That doesn’t even prove the point at all. It’s agreed we pour a ridiculous amount of money into occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, but the fact is, the value of our dollar ROSE during the economic crash while the EURO FELL. It DIDN’T MAKE SENSE! Until recently when we still decided to continuously spend money as a government even with how weak our economy is now. The bailout and “economic stimulus package” was an artificial band aid to the dire problems we with the fact the federal spends loads of money and neither Democrats or Republicans address WHY THE FUCK are we letting our dollar crumble.
The only reasoning why is that the powers that be are crazy. Fucking insane. Cause even if they make so and so much money exploiting our own tax dollars from kickbacks and government pork barrel spending. The money is gonna be fucking useless. However, this can be completely curbed by making sure countries and their ENTIRE economies are backed by our dollar.
Just think about it dude. The value of the dollar is a really weird concept in itself. It’s a really an official IOU made by the government. And we as Americans value the dollar in how much it can give us in terms of material items, piece of mind, and social status. I’ve been to Iraq dude. These people will sell you their daughters for a few bucks. This when I finally got it. The American empire is built upon getting other countries in on it.
Most people in this country have given up on wanting to fight wars Afghanistan and Iraq. So why did Obama send 30,000 troops over there? So he can appease Republicans? Um, Fuck no. It’s political suicide. He killed it with the independent voters WHO GOT HIM IN OFFICE. But he did it anyway. Why? Because he was told to do so.
**good. we’ll use gold or euros. the dollar has been little but a mechanism for the people in the green zone, aka the beltway, to dilute and steal from us for their various nefarious schemes. let the dollar die**
Now I seriously got you. The people of the beltway? And their nefarious schemes? I’m the conspiracy nut? And we should go back to valuing gold BECAUSE? It’s shiny and shit?
12.30.09 at 6:43 am
**That doesn’t even prove the point at all. It’s agreed we pour a ridiculous amount of money into occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, but the fact is, the value of our dollar ROSE during the economic crash while the EURO FELL. It DIDN’T MAKE SENSE! Until recently when we still decided to continuously spend money as a government even with how weak our economy is now. The bailout and “economic stimulus package” was an artificial band aid to the dire problems we with the fact the federal spends loads of money and neither Democrats or Republicans address WHY THE FUCK are we letting our dollar crumble.
The only reasoning why is that the powers that be are crazy. Fucking insane. Cause even if they make so and so much money exploiting our own tax dollars from kickbacks and government pork barrel spending. The money is gonna be fucking useless. However, this can be completely curbed by making sure countries and their ENTIRE economies are backed by our dollar.**
Okay so I got really excited and sorry for the bad grammar and incoherence of it all.
But to make it simple. Even though our Federal government spends way too much money in general, including foreign wars. The fact that we get or force other countries (even the ones that hate us) into valuing our dollar as the global currency completely curbs our gross spending. Also wars and all that crap gives buku amounts of money to the arms industry and that’s something the US can say they are #1 at cause otherwise Russia and China are dying to be champions.
12.30.09 at 6:51 am