A paper released on Wednesday predicts that 2010 may be the year in which nonwhite births outnumber white births for the first time in US history.
“White” is, of course, a relative term, and the study in question doesn’t include Hispanics under its Big White Tent. In fact, it’s the highly race-concious Spics who are squeezing out fetuses much more rapidly than the crackers, ‘groids, slopes, and everyone else.
Do not fear me or what I am about to say. I am here to strengthen the ties that bind. It is my sincere belief that of all people on this planet, I am the only man alive who can bring everyone together. I mingled with and attempted miscegenation with nonwhites long before it became fashionable and eons before it became compulsory. I have taken great pains and spent several years doing field research to establish that poor black people understand me better than affluent white people do, so I approach this topic with a rare degree of compassion and insight.
This morning I left my pearly-white wife and blue-eyed son at home in our 86%-black ‘hood as I headed to work. I listened to the Jew Neil Diamond on the radio and stopped for some Southern “country cooking” grilled up and served for $2.99 by a Chinese woman and her slant-eyed husband. At work, I mix in smoothly with Colombians and Ecuadorians and Guyanese and Cameroonians and Ethiopians and Jews and even black Americans who call each other “brother” without fear of being deemed racist.
So it’s not as if I have a problem getting along with “people of color.” For the most part, I get along better with them and respect them more than I do modern white Americans.
I realize that many of you are ecstatic to the point of auto-orgasm at the fact that whites are becoming an American minority. You exult in some sick, primitive, religious notion of karmic retribution and chickens coming home to roost. You believe—or more properly, you have been persuaded—that white supremacy is mankind’s primary enemy and that this rumbling you hear as America’s demographic tectonic plates shift is actually the loudly joyous sound of a New Era of racial harmony and all-around slap-happy get-togetherness. Without much more than a wing and a prayer, you are convinced that nonwhites are not prone to, nor even morally capable of, ethnic violence or tendencies toward unfairly favoring their own “kind.” You think a sudden interracial orgy will erupt, permanently breeding out all discernible ethnic differences and creating an oatmeal-colored Unitribe who feels as if they’ve “been there, done that” regarding ethnic tension and that the very topic of race is SOOOOOOOOOO 1965.
Good luck with all that.
I’m not so hopeful. I believe the current conditions point more toward catastrophe than harmony.
Here’s why:
THE DOUBLE STANDARD
White Americans are forbidden from expressing ethnic pride—or, at the least, there’s a grudging tolerance of specific national pride such as being Irish, but NEVER just being “white”—while all nonwhites are free to bask proudly in their genetic juices, general or specific, without fear of being labeled bigots. Social double standards are dangerous and never lead to unity. Either everyone should be discouraged from expressing ethnic pride, or everyone should be allowed to express it, no matter how moronic or distasteful it may appear to others. I’m in favor of the latter. But for the time being, it looks as if whites are the only ones who got the memo that we’re supposed to be going “post-racial.”
THERE’S NO PROOF THAT THIS NOBLE “EXPERIMENT” HAS EVER WORKED
Multiculturalism demands we celebrate the fact that the only thing we have in common is that we have nothing in common. This post-racial utopia we’ve been promised has been warmly embraced as irrefutable social science, although I haven’t seen a sliver of evidence to support the idea that this will work or has ever worked in the past. I haven’t been shown any solid examples of poly-ethnic, poly-lingual, poly-religious nations that have been, as the environmentalists like to say, “sustainable” for long periods. The historical record tends to show that these are preconditions for a nation falling apart rather than staying together and that unity tends to be a much stronger adhesive force than diversity. In fact, the most comprehensive study I’ve yet to see on the subject revealed that ethnic diversity makes people less happy and weakens communities rather than strengthening them.
IMMIGRATION HYPOCRISY
I don’t see anyone saying that Venezuela needs more Swedes or that China needs more Belgians, but I hear a lot of people screaming that Western countries need to spread their legs open to non-Westerners. Yes, you can say we’re a “nation of immigrants” from one side of your mouth, but the other side’s bitching that those immigrants have been far too white for far too long. There’s even some speculation that white Europeans may have occupied North America ten millennia before Columbus ever stubbed his toe on it. But if, in fact, white immigrants only arrived here after Columbus and it was wrong for them to overwhelm the cultures that occupied this land, why is it suddenly a good thing that another process of genetic displacement and culture-dispossession is occurring? Two wrongs don’t make a right, at least not according to the rules of logic. And for all the bitching everyone does about the evils of white majorities, 21 of the top 22 nations on the UN’s “Quality of Life” scale are majority-white, so they must be doing something right. Why, then, is it considered insane to challenge the party dogma that making these nations less white will lead to improved living conditions? Why is it deemed a thought crime even to ask?
Throw away the peace signs and rainbow flags and take a serious look at evolutionary social psychology and the competition for resources. I believe people are hard-wired to be tribal, which is why the government spends so much time and pays so many ideological-marketing experts trying to rewire you.
I believe that whatever used to be our “common fabric” is now in tatters. I anticipate that in America, every color in the rainbow is headed for some mighty rough times. And more than anything, I hope I’m wrong.
Like I said, I know how to get along when I want to, but I’m not so sure about everyone else. I don’t plan on antagonizing anyone because they’re different from me, but neither will I lie down like an obedient white lamb in case I get antagonized.
And I’ll teach my little white son never to hate anyone because they’re different from him, but I’ll kick in the fucking skull of anyone who attacks him because he’s white.
Sounds fair to me. Do we have a deal?
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This is poorly written.
03.12.10 at 11:47 am
can we as human beings find a way to have pride in the things that make us different that doesn’t end with the phrase “kick in the fucking skull”? Because, in my understanding, that’s where racial (or ethnic, or geographic, or whatever else) pride has led us in the past. And it always ends up with somebody who looks different, or talks different, or lives in the next village down the river, or believes in a different version of some imaginary all-powerful whatnot, getting his fucking skull kicked in.
Also Jim, if you want to get really mad, you should check out Almanac of the Dead by Leslie Marmon Silko. I think it’s a pretty amazing book, but it’ll probably make you so damn mad your blood will vaporize. I’m pretty tolerant and it gets my hackles up a lot. All about the retaking of the Americas by native people. Fun stuff.
03.12.10 at 11:52 am
white people should have more kids and encourage other white people to have more kids if they feel they aren’t keeping up.
Other than that, what is the alternative? spending time and effort we don’t have on criminalizing and ruminating?
03.12.10 at 12:46 pm
I may be misreading this, but it appears he’s reserving the skull-kick for anyone who physically attacks his son for being white, not for people who are different. No?
03.12.10 at 1:23 pm
This article was boring the 17th time Goad published it.
03.12.10 at 1:26 pm
How about just skull- kicking any one who attacks his son for any reason, rather than indulging this paranoid, mean-spirited, probably-never-going-to-happen fantasy?
03.12.10 at 1:28 pm
Can you imagine a black man who raps while simultaneously claiming that he feels more emotionally connected to white people than he does non-whites? Would any black people respect his music?
03.12.10 at 1:34 pm
I like pancakes.
03.12.10 at 1:38 pm
@anon – sure, that’s what he said. but for the human race, over the course of history, it usually starts with “whoever hurts my son” and almost always ends with “I think the last of them is in the mass grave, sir.” I’m not saying that’s what he’s gonna do, I’m just saying that’s what *people* do. We start by being proud, and end up murdering each other. I was just wondering if there’s another route. Judging by how the threads on this board usually end up, I think the answer is “probably not.”
03.12.10 at 1:47 pm
I laughed at the term “groid.”
The rest was shit.
03.12.10 at 2:04 pm
Someone should have told the Native Americans they were only being paranoid when the white man showed up. That way, a lot of bloodshed could have been avoided.
03.12.10 at 2:07 pm
You try to stop the constant unending flow of immigration and changing settlement patterns and you join the long list of people who have historically failed to do so.
Having an opinion on race is like having an opinion on which way the earth’s plates should be moving. It ain’t a planned system bitch, there’s literally nothing you can do about it.
Also, @ Vane$$a
“Can you imagine a black man who raps while simultaneously claiming that he feels more emotionally connected to white people than he does non-whites? Would any black people respect his music?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK_WfF6hf2E
“Ain’t got no homies that got my back, Yeah I’m a brotha, but some times I don’t feel black / My girl is white, My game ain’t tight / Niggas who ain’t seen me in a while be like ‘Dude, you a’ight?’”
Good song
03.12.10 at 2:22 pm
“I haven’t seen a sliver of evidence to support the idea that this will work or has ever worked in the past”
you shoulda been in downtown vancouver during the olympics..
03.12.10 at 2:24 pm
i think the point he is trying to make is, for all of white peoples past transgressions against minorities, we’re pretty much civil. for a good look at what happens when the minority becomes the majority, look at rhodesia or south africa. this is what we’re scared of.
03.12.10 at 2:30 pm
its human nature.
lets say all people are suddenly oatmeal colored folks and race becomes a non issue. I have 100% faith in the fact that humans are wired to categorize the world and would find some other thing to become an issue. I mean really, CLASS would be the next thing to come up, its right under race on the list of things people judge each other by. ACTUALLY, I would make the argument that class is the bigger gorilla/elephant in the room.
Good job Goad, I think this should whip readers/commenters into a frenzy. I would love to point out the major failure of the piece….its written FOR the white perspective instead of written FROM the white perspective.
03.12.10 at 2:39 pm
I agree with everything he’s said here but still have no clue how he reconciles the contradictions in his emotional/racial connections. Looks to me like he hates white people but has never really gotten to know them. Sound familiar? In that way, dude’s a reflection of everything that’s wrong. “I’m white and everything but I see white people as emotionally inferior to non-whites.” What are we? Cockroaches? Do you even have any intimate relationships with whites besides your family? What the fuck do you know about white people anyways? You sing country music, but you don’t relate to white people? So go fucking rap then. Explore your true essence…”original man.” I guess that once you’re a wigger it’s hard to ever truly let go of that little brotha inside.
One thing I’ve noticed lately is that many of my formerly liberal friends have done a complete volta face and become arsenal owning white nationalists. They can’t even begin to articulate the current liberal agenda with anything that resembles a straight face. They started reading sites like vdare and amren for kicks but then it started to sink in and they were like, “woah i’m suddenly the oppressed ethnic categorization that i always wanted to be.” The only thing they need to do now is get over their self-loathing at once being so horribly brainwashed. They can’t believe that their idealism was exploited in order to contribute to their own demise. Once they get over that, they might actually be able to fight for their freedom instead of simply enjoying it. I don’t find any of this to be in the least bit fucking funny by the way.
03.12.10 at 3:16 pm
Jim, why are you dedicating your time attacking stoned college freshmen who listen to Bob Marley? I mean, try and find me any other credible individual who is celebrating that whites may be on the verge of becoming an American minority while claiming we are post-racial and waving a peace sign and rainbow flag. Please show me so I can slap them around a bit.
Otherwise, your formula has been reduced to creating a straw-man then attacking it while demanding that any disagreement is symptomatic of the straw-man’s skewed ideology. Glen Beck is way better at this and more fun to watch.
03.12.10 at 3:46 pm
I would say approximately 100% of my friends could care less they are going to become a minority soon. They must know deep down that it’s not just a color thing and it’s actually different cultures that are taking over, cultures that are simply not as advanced as ours. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and that’s a bad thing because they are useless at separating church and state. Even hispanic culture is not an improvement on traditional America. They have way more babies out of wedlock than we do, value education less, and have no real interest in learning English and assimilating.
So it’s not a matter of different skin tones moving around. It’s about a more developed culture being wiped out by a less developed culture. That’s called “going backwards” isn’t it? Why doesn’t anyone i know think this is a bad thing? Can you imagine a Japanese man being excited about Japan becoming Mexican? Shit, a Guatemalan wouldn’t even stand for it.
03.12.10 at 3:58 pm
it’s very much a secular vs. religious thing. just as america and europe started dropping god, the powers that be started opening the floodgates to muzzies and catholic hispanics. a secular world just might be too smart and reckless (what with no after-life) to adequately control. just think of how cool and fun the world would be sans creepy religions. that’s why i have issues with immigrants. like all religious types, they’re stupid and violent.
03.12.10 at 4:41 pm
I like most of jim goads articles but I don’t know how to describe it, he’s like a fence sitter. Most of the stuff I read that is political is like “this is the problem so we should do THIS”. his style is kind of like I can’t fathom the solution to this so I’m going to make a couple of violent jokes. I’ts fine but it takes getting used to. like the racial profailing one. It just sort of talked about how we should racial profile more and ignored the bigger issues of it. I don’t know. I don’t know if it’s a creative choice on his part or a generational thing where he doesn’t feel he has to provide any sort of answer that it’s enough to just point it out
03.12.10 at 4:43 pm
GQ, seems like that Social Darwinism of yours is biting you in the ass. If ‘your’ culture is so superior, then why is it being threatened by the supposedly weaker ones? And if so, what’s the solution? Ethnic cleansing? Tax cuts for families who produce white babies with absolutely no non-white (including European) blood? This actually may be a good idea, considering that some of the largest all-white communities reside in trailer parks.
03.12.10 at 4:59 pm
high levels of immigration plus widespread economic deprivation will lead to problems somewhere. however, it’s worth remembering that for many young people, skin colour is a non-issue. of course, that may be one of virtues of being young. but i do fail to sympathize with those who are worried about the demise of the white race. most people in the important positions of power in the world are white, and that’s not changing any time soon. the rise of asia will supplant the western power-blocs soon enough, but that has more to do with the cyclic rise and fall of nations than anything else. as always, the only colour that really matters is green.
03.12.10 at 5:15 pm
I don’t disagree, but it just isn’t the right venue for this article. If you posted this on Storm Front you would definitely have a more provocative albeit insane discussion about race and how we should interact. Kids on this site are brain dead. Fingers thrust firmly in ears.
03.12.10 at 5:40 pm
Jersey Shore there’s your all white America
03.12.10 at 5:44 pm
@lester
Them boys are miscegenated
03.12.10 at 5:48 pm
@mik
simply having the numbers on your side is what apparently makes a superior culture in your construct and that of modern power. by this reasoning, any arab culture that still existed in the middle circa 1950 is vastly superior to scandinavian culture simply based on having a higher population. but bringing the highly subjective superiority gripe into the argument is useless. most people i know are more concerned with the safer “incompatibility” of cultures combined with the media and every other institution prodding folks toward a violent human enema. i don’t know any white people who wouldn’t gladly live in a multi-cult society if it meant peace, prosperity, safety, and a solid tax base. it’s well known that the middle-class lacks incentive to have children. the schools suck and the future is bleak. but yeah, it’s pretty funny that despite our environmental woes, we still have leaders who suck up to cultures that don’t practice responsible propagation. you’d think that in the age of enviro disaster communities with negative population growth would be seen as models of what to do. i guess not.
@ stoops
what do you think powerful white people do for poor white people who are being made the scapegoats for all the world’s woes? uhhhhh…they dictate the agenda and make the policies that put poor white people in that position. look at the gates foundation, proudly providing college assistance for every color in the rainbow except white. in their world, there are no poor white people. powerful whites have nothing to do with me or anyone that i know. and remember that despite all that white power, the lumpen white race is probably the only race that a bitch like you would ever have the balls to publicly/cavalierly/anonymously designate next on the list for genocide.
03.12.10 at 6:42 pm
*middle ages
03.12.10 at 6:43 pm
um, okay. i’m not really into designating anyone for genocide, white, yellow, black, or red. and i happen to agree with you, you dumb fuck…i never said powerful whites are out there helping poor whites…my point was that rightly or wrongly, non-whites still tend to view themselves as second class citizens because of where the power and money resides. many decent books have been written about how modern liberalism has completely ignored the fate of working-class and poor whites. this is a problem that needs to be addressed but is willfully ignored by politicos across the spectrum.
next time, take a deep breath before you flip out. you sound like an amateur.
03.12.10 at 7:05 pm
anyway, my lack of empathy for ‘races’ bitching about their lot in life extends to all colours under the sun. i believe in the power of the individual. all this tribalism horseshit is low-order thinking. if you derive your sense of self from the colour of your skin, i don’t have much to say to you.
03.12.10 at 7:15 pm
america is, has been, and always will be a mix of every single nation or race of peoples on our little Earth. this fact has been established by history. and it will never change. so everybody here in america has to deal with this fact. and if you think about it, we’re actually doing an amazing job of assimilation. especially considering the depth of our diversity.
03.12.10 at 7:47 pm
The problems in this country isn’t mainly about race, it’s mainly about idiots of any race breeding so many fucking kids. Hey man, it’s all about free abortions and ending welfare. There goes most of the dilemma.
03.12.10 at 7:50 pm
Oh by the way, fuck Norway. It’s the top “high human developed country” index. It’s a country that banned skateboarding and gave hipsters bad metal they pretend they actually listen to.
03.12.10 at 8:05 pm
Oh no the Mexicans are taking over America! There’s nothing scarier than having to learn Spanish. Great. Now my mom has to learn another language she still won’t get after living here for 20+ years.
Honestly, white culture is liberal and weak. Good riddance. A stronger culture shall development getting rid of this “stupid problem” once and for all.
03.12.10 at 8:15 pm
A culture that will shall “develop” excuse me.
03.12.10 at 8:18 pm
@vanessa…o and yeah, you mean you’re not secretly hooked up with all the rich and powerful whites? really? i’m shocked! i thought all white people knew each other! i’ll have to reevaluate my worldview…and i guess i’ll have to stop anonymously calling for the destruction of the white race…you’re not that fucking retarded, are you? or did a brown man piss in your cereal this morning and get you a little angsty?
03.12.10 at 8:25 pm
I think it’s a real riot that a couple of micks like the Canadian Gavin and bastard Southerner Jim Goad (just guessing about Goad, he’s probably a half breed of some kind) are trying to ride the racial coat tails of actual genetically superior whites. Fellas, you guys might as well be spics for all we care. The Scotch/Irish whites did absolutely nothing towards the betterment of this country, save for popping out mick babies and getting drunk on Sundays. The best thing that every happened to you was when the Anglos put you to work– anyway, someone had to pull the levers in the factories. Now you’re sitting around complaining “oh, they’re taking our jerbs” or what have you, and looking to us for sympathy. You dummies, they aren’t taking OUR jobs, they’re taking yours. I’ve yet to see a Mexican jump the fence and start a hedge fund or become a wealth manager. We don’t care about this “browning” as you call it. You’re just another pitiful, uneducated race. If you disappear in favor of the spics or whoever, who cares? We’re still in charge, we still have the control, we still make the decisions. The only difference I can imagine is my Park Avenue doorman having a different accent.
03.12.10 at 8:38 pm
^ JEW!
03.12.10 at 8:55 pm
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03.12.10 at 9:25 pm
anyone who is proud of their race is a fucking idiot. what? you want a medal for being born?
03.12.10 at 9:26 pm
Where are the white women at? This sucks if it means less white women. I only date white chicks.
03.12.10 at 9:40 pm
i don’t care what you ever say all i know is that i always want you to shut up
03.12.10 at 11:23 pm
hegemony dipshit
03.13.10 at 1:20 am
do you think a girl has ever sniffed guys underwear to get off? doubt it.
03.13.10 at 3:15 am
i’m a huge jim goad fan. at least the guy is honest. sometimes i think that all these multiculturalist intellectuals are just in it to get laid and they can’t possible believe most of the shit that comes out of their mouths.
03.13.10 at 3:57 am
“I hope I’m wrong.”
Bullshit. Goad will ejaculate in pleasure if his dire warnings of catastrophic race-war come true.
03.13.10 at 5:04 am
I thought all Asians were smart. God damn Taeil do us all a favor and get hit by a VBIED.
03.13.10 at 9:34 am
Most Americans don’t know this but America is
75% Christian
–
73% white 3% Jewish (included in the white %)
13% Hispanic
5% Asian (Pakistani, Indian, Chinese, Japanese)
12% black
–
Outside of the Mexicans in LA and all the blacks in New York, Chicago, and Detroit. It’s just as white as Canada and Britain. Not exactly the rainbow everyone says it is.
03.13.10 at 11:05 am
me and the Old Lady made a half Chinaman girl this year. i used to be afraid of all the groids and brown trash taking over but its the same as being worried that your going to get old. we lost the race war. im ok w/ my little half Chinaman baby now.
03.13.10 at 12:21 pm
This whole debate isn’t really about race. It’s about culture. This country is a funny take on white culture that includes black culture and a few other strange twists. Tyler Perry doesn’t make his millions from just 12% of the population. White people love that shit too.
The problem is people coming here who don’t love that shit. People who don’t want to learn the language or want to reunify church and state (or worse, lost state all together as in Sharia Law).
Western chauvinism and xenophobia are ironically the great unifier of American blacks, whites, Jews and assimilated immigrants. America’s only hope is to become a big proud rainbow of intolerance that says “Learn the language. Respect the culture. Or get out.”
03.13.10 at 2:17 pm
just dont allow democrats to vote and we wouldn’t have a problem with our culture getting raped
03.13.10 at 2:28 pm
this gavin/goad anti-PC stuff about race is so incredibly and profoundly dated! these geezers are still rebelling against a PC university establishment from the late 1980s! get over it. nobody cares.
the particularly funny part is that you know that jim goad considers himself to be a highly intelligent person — this is clearly absurd. you guys spend your time hanging around with drunken punk rockers, so obviously you feel smart.
streetboners are funny, but your views on politics are utterly juvenile, stuck in the past, and give a bad name to autodidacts everywhere.
03.13.10 at 2:40 pm
What’s wrong with Goad’s thinking here, as ever, is that he boils everything down to race, because at heart, he is a racist. Just as with that last Haiti article where he implied that the poverty and living standards of the Haitians were solely a result of their being black (and not due to a century of exploitation, indebtedness and political and military repression by the US) this article implies that if non-whites become the majority in the US, shit will hit the fan as an inevitable consequence of these non-whites having a majority in numbers. Specifically, Goad alludes in a kind-of-creepily-enjoying-thinking-about-it-too-much sort of way to a kind of violent race-war in which ‘neither will [he] lie down like an obedient white lamb in case [he] gets antagonized’ ‘and where ‘[he'll] kick in the fucking skull of anyone who attacks [his son] because he’s white.’
This is total bullshit.
Firstly, as someone pointed out above AMERICA IS 75% WHITE and that doesn’t include the 29 million latino or hispanics who consider themselves white. Even the most extreme projection still puts whites as the largest single ethnic group in 2050. Secondly, and much, much more importantly, the number of non-whites doesn’t matter for one simple reason: THE OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF WEALTH AND POWER IN THE USA IS FIRMLY IN THE HANDS OF WHITES. Race isn’t the issue. Class and social equality is. Any friction that occurs in the future between non-whites and whites will not be on some pig-ignorant fantasy of genetic ‘tribalism’ or clashing ethnicities. It will be between an impoverished and disenfranchised majority and a wealthy minority. It doesn’t matter if millions more non-white babies are born. It does matter if millions more poor babies are born. This is where the real seeds of social unrest lie.
Jim, you used to know this – that the real dividing line in society is class not race. Please find your fucking brain again and stop this racist swill.
03.13.10 at 3:28 pm
Using Goad’s whole “it’s class not race” thing against Goad was one of the smarter comments here in a while. Whether it’s valid or not. I wish people here could stop talking about the author and actually tackle specific points for a change.
@Frankie.
Who gave you the idea PC is dead? Simply seeing a noose still makes college students burst into tears and riot.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2010/03/01/dnt.ucsd.campus.protests.kfmb?hpt=C2
Or how about everyone calling the Tea Party racist because they don’t approve of Obama’s unprecedented tax hikes. Keith Olberman decided they’re all naive white people and made fun of them for not having any black friends despite working at uber white NBC. He is beautifully ridiculed for it here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKofFIveJG4
03.13.10 at 6:02 pm
I say that all races and cultures have the potential to be stupid, racist and dangerous to other races. The japanese are particularly ruthless, as the arabs and the black fundamentalists in Nigeria.
03.13.10 at 6:32 pm
Opinions are like assholes. Everybody is one.
03.13.10 at 11:27 pm
Ned Beatty:
The point is not the PC doesn’t exist, the point is that the whole debate around it is irrelevant; you guys are completely out of touch with the real pressing issues of the day.
I mean, come on, debunking Keith Olbermann?
Why don’t you debunk Howard Stern, Jay Leno, and Nickelodeon while you’re at it?
You proved my point entirely, i.e. nobody cares. Its irrelevant to anybody’s real life, except some gnarled punkers grousing on the internet. Both of the stories that you mentioned are silly little tempests in teapots — fun nonsense for media consumption (if you are easily entertained/riled up), but absolutely nothing more.
That is to say: yes, Keith Olbermann is an irrelevant idiot, but so is Jim Goad and so are you.
03.14.10 at 12:21 am
I gotta agree. Class > Race. It’s kinda sad that Jim is forgetting the former arguments he used to endorse but now it has become closer to the kinda shit a lot of white separatists would talk about.
Then again, liberals bring race up more than class more than ANYBODY. I can’t help but notice it always becomes “blame the white guy” argument and in some cases is thinly veiled “blame the Jews” type of shit.
03.14.10 at 3:11 am
Frankie I like how you argue. You don’t make any points and at the end of every statement you write somebody off as an idiot simply because he/she doesn’t agree with you. I might not be a smart man, but I’m pretty sure I can say I’m a better man than you.
03.14.10 at 3:25 am
Just a hunch—100% of those accusing me of being ignorant of America’s class disparities come from a better economic background than I do.
03.14.10 at 7:33 am
I don’t think people have accused you of being ignorant about class. I think people are saying you’ve abandoned that argument with an emphasis more on race.
03.14.10 at 7:56 am
@Frankie
So any discussion of PC and fake accusations of racism is a “tempest in a teacup”? The president is trying to institute the biggest tax hike in the history of this country and anyone who disapproves is branded a racist. This is irrelevant? 13 trillion dollars is 85k per American worker. That includes you.
So PC bullshit is being used to discredit people who are trying to prevent you getting a bill for 85k. Relevant enough?
03.14.10 at 9:20 am
Here’s another NOT irrelevant example of PC damage today. There’s not a lot of blacks and hispanics taking science so what do we do? Close down the labs for being racist.
http://www.eastbayexpress.com/ebx/berkeley-high-may-cut-out-science-labs/Content?oid=1536705
03.14.10 at 9:22 am
Ah yes. The city of Berkeley. The bastion of liberal progressiveness and free thought…
Oh you know this debate reminded me of a poem:
Black man’s got his problems and his way to deal with it,
So don’t fool yourself you’re helping with your white liberal shit.
If you care to take a closer look at the way things really stand,
You’d see we’re all just niggers to the rulers of this land.
03.14.10 at 9:40 am
hey i think there are glittering nuggets of golden wisdom in this. why do we think multiculturalism is a good thing? clearly, the post-colonial world is scarred by national borders drawn without considering ethnic and religious geographies. Every liberal nytimes reader would agree with that. but no one can believe that that could be true in our own country.
also, i’m sorry but i have to do this, race-conscious, not race-concious. also, you really didn’t have to justify everything you said by telling us “no i’m not a racist! some of my best friends are black!” to start of your article.
03.14.10 at 11:56 am
poor folks have it bad , have had it bad and will have it bad , black brown white. some of the greatest minds in the west are floundering in the day to day battle to survive , poor diet , low expectations . ive noticed the wealthy stay that way for generations simply out of inertia. distribute the wealth the cream will rise to the top and society will flourish.
03.14.10 at 12:02 pm
“Just a hunch—100% of those accusing me of being ignorant of America’s class disparities come from a better economic background than I do.”
Just a hunch – you can’t actually formulate an argument, so you make an irrelevant point as distraction. The class position – be it middle, upper or lower – of someone suggesting the existence and consequences of class distinctions has nothing to do with the validity of that suggestion. If they were a factory worker or a CEO it still remains true. Don’t attack the argument, attack the arguer – classic desperation.
Furthermore, I wasn’t suggesting that you were ‘ignorant of America’s class disparities’ at all. I thought “Jim, you used to know this” would’ve made that clear to you. As Taeil said, it’s that you used to recognise these disparities, and have now seemingly replaced that recognition with unfounded, thick, cringe worthy dross.
Try again.
03.14.10 at 2:54 pm
These are all legit arguments, and maybe I’m just bored with Goad. The thing that bothers me is that our lives are so easy and so awesome. Even if the coloreds come in and disrupt the status quo, quality of life is a million times better than it was in redneck manifesto’s references.
I have all the coke, beer and pussy I want, and if my country goes to shit, it’s easy enough to go someplace else.
03.14.10 at 5:20 pm
Yeah I think no matter what happens, people will always find something to divide and categorise each other into different groups..see Granfalloon Technique ->
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granfalloon#Granfalloon_Technique
03.14.10 at 5:22 pm
OMG white people are an endangered species!!!! fuck you jim goad
03.14.10 at 7:26 pm
JESUS CHRIST, man. Who the FUCK are you debating? I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said here. I just resent being condescended to by a smug prick who isn’t nearly as “controversial” as he thinks he is.
As much as you’d like to believe that “multiculturalism” is all the fault of big-gumbit liberal fascists, it’s not. It works for the marketplace. Free trade and assimilation just make more money than “tribalism.” There’s only one color of money. Big bank take little bank. That’s the way it is. The principles of economics make more quantifiable sense than eugenics. There’s no point in “fighting back.”
I accept this, but I’m under no illusion that it’s going to be rosy for everyone. Unskilled white goobers will suffer a reduction in status, along with unskilled black goobers and anyone else who can’t fucking adapt. My heart bleeds. Hope the Tea Party Patriots can bail y’all out. As long as you’re “the bravest man alive” and contrarian hipsters will pay you to beat up the same strawman again and again, you should be OK. But you’ll never have a serious debate about this because no one really believes what you assume all “liberals” believe. There aren’t a lot of rocket scientists here, but I think everyone here is more realistic about race than the voices in your head.
Personally, I think ANY ethnic pride is stupid, a poor substitute for personal achievement. If your self-definition is “my dad can beat up your dad,” the world will swallow you. But I guess I’ve been brainwashed by the SPLC.
On many occasions, you’ve called out public figures for “backpedaling” on their remarks, for not having the balls to be real racists. So what’s stopping you? If you became a flag-waving white supremacist, cheerleading the bones of your French-Canadian ancestors, it would be a lot more entertaining than this swill.
03.14.10 at 9:22 pm
Can you please stop using the word swill? You wanna bring back Old English or something?
03.14.10 at 11:36 pm
well put asdf
03.15.10 at 1:07 am
I wanna go fuck me a honkey’s ass
03.15.10 at 2:09 am
Yep, I’m trying to bring back Olde English. Because a white society is a good society.
And I’m not moving to Haiti because it sucks, for a lot of reasons. I’d rather stay here and face reality, however it might change.
03.15.10 at 3:12 am
I kind of agree with Frankie “hese geezers are still rebelling against a PC university establishment from the late 1980s”
I got into an argument with Mr Goad about Israel and he seem baffled that I would bring it up. I was baffled he was bringing up culture war stuff that sounded like stuff from the 80’s even Pat Buchanan doesn’t talk about anymore. At first I thought he and Gavin were just wusses who were afraid to “speak truth to power” but now I think they just don’t know about the whole thing though in Gavins case it’s kind of odd because he posts at takimag which is like probably the second or third most noted site about stuff like that.
in their defense the mainstream media and mainstream period are still iving in the 80’s and 90’s, so for people who write alot about popular culture it would make sense that they would speak more on all these issues. During Jesus’s time they would have been writing about the roman occupation, when the end times are coming and various points of hebrew law rather than writing about these irrelevent Jesus guy. alright I’m rambling here
03.15.10 at 9:54 am
Whats with Jim Goad and race? Please fit more in with the context of this site and start writing about your masterbation habits, Goad. I don’t come here for sociology class.
03.16.10 at 9:26 pm
where do my comments go? haha fucking morons…. Jim Toad only deletes my shit because he knows i’m right.
03.24.10 at 11:42 am
I hate racists because they underestimate the other races.
Stupid self-hating uncle Tom baby-boomers are the ones responsible for this situation and the shit will hit the fan after they croak.
Look forward to being a hated minority my fellow ghost-faced crackers.
06.21.10 at 7:28 pm
“We’re still in charge, we still have the control, we still make the decisions.”
Famous last words of the Rhodesian colonialists…
07.07.10 at 5:23 pm