Earth First has now gone beyond “First” and found a place before #1 where, if anyone does anything to the earth at all, it’s time to get down on your knees and cry. Unfortunately for them, forests love it when we cut down trees and print newspapers with them and build houses and burn wood for fuel. As Greenpeace founder Patrick Moore pointed out, “Every time you buy a newspaper you’re essentially ordering more wood. And that means more trees have to be planted.” If the supply was running out maybe these babies would have a point. But it’s not. So they don’t. Of course, today’s environmentalists couldn’t care less about the facts. They just want to scream at their rich parents and wear green Che Guevara shirts.
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Environmentalism is primarily about numbers and science. Today’s Green Movement is people with liberal arts degrees that haven’t looked at math since 10th grade. Yet, they talk about the science of the environment like it’s obvious. I’ve even had people compare me to a Creationist for daring to call Global Warming a theory. You’ll often catch these same people asking you when you were born so they can discuss your sign.
09.08.08 at 12:46 pm
THANK YOU FOR LINKING TO DR PATRICK MOORE. That guy is one of the few environmentalists with the balls to call out the Green Movement for what it is: a bunch of rich, white kids who think they’re above everyone else and want to tell everyone how to live their lives.
09.08.08 at 12:48 pm
lets stick to polluting as much as possible. that garbage island looks like a blast to swim through – so many treasures to find!
09.08.08 at 12:54 pm
theres something wrong with that moore dudes insinuation that the demand for lumber is good for the environment. tree plantations are a bunch of trees on a piece of land. Forests are intricate webs of life, with, like, spiders and birds and shit.
09.08.08 at 1:08 pm
this is fucking ridiculous.
09.08.08 at 1:14 pm
Prick: you perfectly sum up today’s Greenies. Reducing complex silviculture to the language of a child.
rick: read the post. “today’s” environmentalists. Not environmentalism as a whole. Dr Patrick Moore lives in a fucking forest. He’s the real deal. The rest of these Brad Pitt / Whole Foods hippies are posers.
Global Warming is not a problem.
recycling is bullshit.
We’ve never lived longer or been healthier or wealthier.
HOWEVER, we should still care about the environment. But you have to do your homework. They way Moore has.
09.08.08 at 1:28 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA stupid bitch trees can’t FUCKING UNDERSTAND YOU
09.08.08 at 1:31 pm
yes, trust fund kids are annoying, that’s an easy one, but you make some really wild statements here. Might want to back this up with some more sources.
09.08.08 at 1:37 pm
ahahahahahahaha!!… among other things did u notice that one cunt with the short fro thing said “the rock has incredible life” the rock? really? the fucking rock! hahaha after watching that i’m voting for Sarah Van Palin.
09.08.08 at 2:11 pm
Earth first, sanity second.
09.08.08 at 2:17 pm
Yes it is all about the numbers. Namely, the numbers of people. Only, the new lefties don’t want to discuss that because it’s not white people that are doing the breeding. This split caused a huge rift within the SIerra Club that eventually split them in half. This story is the Green scoop of the century but nobody will go near it.
http://www.susps.org/
09.08.08 at 2:30 pm
I like the way, when they discovered it’s actually women’s birth control pills that are fucking up all the salmon and making them unable to reproduce the hippies just drop the subject like a hot potato. They wouldn’t want any of their feminist dogma to be hurt by saving the planet.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/124939_estrogen04.html
09.08.08 at 2:32 pm
“Every time you buy a newspaper you’re essentially ordering more wood. And that means more trees have to be planted.”
right… ..but.. I think the greenpeace guy would agree that the problem is we aren’t planting enough new trees? and meanwhile cutting down too many ancient forests?
C’mon. Just because a lot of environmentalists are obnoxious doesn’t auotmatically make it opposite day where everything they say is negated.
09.08.08 at 3:23 pm
I hope a bear eats them.
09.08.08 at 3:35 pm
We are actually planting plenty of trees. And yes, though it’s sad to see ancient forests go, forests are resilient. IF you try to plant a monoculture forest, a whole slew of biodiversity will take it over. The countryside is simply to rugged to maintain a monoculture. So every creature you see in an old forest will eventually pop back up in a planted forest.
The bigger picture is, the third world needs wood as fuel. Any other solution you come up with like some kind of ethanol bullshit is going to mean a hell of a lot MORE clear cuts as corn farms take over all arable land.
09.08.08 at 4:08 pm
oh god, that was genuinely hard to watch
09.08.08 at 4:24 pm
Trees are bad because they absorb water from the earth soils. An argument can be made that trees are aliens like people and cause bad things to happen the our planets soul. The more we dehydrate our land the more nanopollutants, like CO2, the ground will intake. Trees evaporate water at a higher cycle of speed than even our skyrocketing temperatures. We need to look into the carbon footprint of trees. Anyway, you’re probably thinking that you may know this already, or maybe you think you know better, but I have a $100,000 of teachings under my belt so I think I’m fairly aware. Pay attention to the true calls of mother earth.
09.08.08 at 4:31 pm
@Cap’N Glitterfuzz : And you’re on Street Boners? What a waste of $100,000.
09.08.08 at 4:41 pm
stick to posting pictures of hot chicks and funny people
Patrick Moore sucks the cock of the man.
also..cap’n glitterfuzz/cap’n science
“I have $100 000 of teachings under my belt so I think I’m fairly aware”
omfg get a refund
09.08.08 at 4:52 pm
I live near Berkeley and the tree huggers are unrelenting every time a new addition to the campus is being completed. Most of these folks don’t even go to the school! Too much free time, too much money.
09.08.08 at 5:09 pm
All I want to do for the rest of my laugh is point and laugh at these people wherever they go.
09.08.08 at 5:50 pm
Fuck the Earth, anyway. It’s always out to get us. There’s a supervolcano under Yellowstone National park with the capability of annihilating every living thing in North America and it’s overdue to erupt. Why do I want to save that?
09.08.08 at 5:53 pm
That’s ignorant, h8r. Can’t we all coexist? You need a bumper sticker.
09.08.08 at 5:58 pm
And i bet every autumn, trees cry tears of leaves for all human beings that are killed…
09.08.08 at 6:07 pm
“Fuck the Earth, anyway. It’s always out to get us.” hahahahahah LMFAO. if i was in high school that would be my yearbook quote.
its true though – these hurricanes and shit – nature is gonna be fine.
09.08.08 at 6:49 pm
um all the feminists I’ve ever met aren’t into birth control
09.08.08 at 7:05 pm
i am not tommy gun @ 7:05pm.
the feminists i know think abortion should be legal until kids are 10 years old – especially fat little boys that like football and shit.
09.08.08 at 7:25 pm
I don’t know what’s uglier, this mob of dumb commentators or manky hippies. I think Moore takes the prize though; Moore’s a boomer sellout dick with his snout in the trough. And its hard to argue against global warming if you’ve spent the past 6 winters in the arctic circle recently. I’d like to, I would really would. anyway here’s something for Moore http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Patrick_Moore
and here’s something for the hell of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7cu6Ip4MDs
09.08.08 at 7:51 pm
I think those Earth First peeps just needed a really good cry.
and I needed a good fucking laugh. Thanks Streetboners!
09.08.08 at 8:08 pm
“Trees are the most abundant, renewable and biodegradable resource in the world, yet activists tell us to reduce our use of wood. Forests are stable and growing where we use the most wood, and diminishing where we use less. Using wood sends a signal to the marketplace to plant more trees and produce more wood. There is about the same forest area in North America as there was 100 years ago.”
09.08.08 at 8:29 pm
@ Dr Patrick Moore
I have no problem with the harvesting of timber, depending upon how forests or planted tracts are managed. That quote is a weak piece of PR fluff which isn’t surprising considering he’s a international freelancing shill for any timber or mining company willing to front him a salary. Why don’t you link to some peer reviewed papers by the good doctor? It would be nice to see some actual science done into forestry even if he does have background in marine biology. And if he has the chops then why doesn’t he have any fucking references in any scientific work in that field he so richly opines on?
09.08.08 at 9:05 pm
Cos he’s a fucking bitch that’s why…
09.08.08 at 9:05 pm
all these comments about “fuck the trees” like deforestation isn’t a big problem are as maddeningly ignorant as the tree-hugger video is embarassing.
is it really hard to digest TWO concepts that:
1) it’s okay to cut down some trees and silly to cry over it, but that:
2) humans cut down way too fucking many trees, and in strategically bad places?
@ CapNGlitterfuzz: ask for your $100k back because you don’t know shit about biology or putting together a rational argument.
@patrick moore quote guy: “. Forests are stable and growing where we use the most wood, and diminishing where we use less.”
Yeah. Stable in N. America where we’re all rich and can afford to keep our forests in our backyards and diminishing in poor ass countries that have to sell their forests to us for logging and don’t have the money to “use” wood in the first place. And guess where most of those countries are? The fucking equator! And thanks to the wobble of the earth and seasons, where is the most environmentally important place to have trees AT? Near the fucking equator. (Where they get more sun and thus can take in more carbon, and don’t release carbon every autumn when they shed)
Second, “about the same forest area in n. america” he means LESS and 100 years ago? Oh okay, so 1908? The middle of the fucking industrial revolution? How about amount of forests 500 years ago, please?
09.08.08 at 9:24 pm
Patrick Moore is employed by a consortium of logging companies to go around to meetings and schools and promote this very biased and distorted message – he came to my high school back in 2000 – it was the equivalent of that senator on the simpsons who showed the 2 slides, one of a forest with trees being big dark and scary, and the second of abunch of woodland creatures having tea parties on cut down stumps. he is for the logging of old growth forest, and is the biggest ‘eco judas’ on the planet.. ask any of the other founding members of greenpeace about him to find out what hes really about..
09.08.08 at 9:33 pm
ps someone should tell that snowboard kid (shaun white?) at the end of the vid to just relax..
09.08.08 at 9:34 pm
Actually before I get flamed I just found that he does have a PHD in mining pollutants and a BSC in forest ecology (dunno where the marine biology background came from), but I still stand by my previous comments. And that he’s a publicity whore whose science is mediocre and damaging. Do your own research and don’t rely on his soundbites please.
09.08.08 at 9:47 pm
1- He’s not a publicity hound. YouTube him. He mostly does seminars. He doesn’t mug for the camera the way the Michael Moore greenies do.
2- Yes he gets hired by various companies. He’s an ecologist. He’s an expert on vinyl and pvc so if you own a company that makes that and people are making you go bankrupt you need to educate the public on what you do. That means hiring experts.
And who cares who pays him? That is such a typical lefty criticism. It’s called facts. If you have a problem with the facts then say so. He could be a racist pedophile on his off time. Doesn’t affect the truth of what he’s saying.
3- He doesn’t do soundbites. He’s written tomes of articles and essays and books.
09.08.08 at 9:54 pm
don’t forget, the math is just the math.
09.08.08 at 10:42 pm
one word: napalm
09.09.08 at 12:41 am
Hitler was an environmentalist. He was a vegetarian, too.
And trees were used in most acts of lynching.
Cut them all down. Cut them ALL down.
09.09.08 at 1:35 am
i’d have to second tommygun, there are actually some intelligent ones out there
i’d have to say the ones harping about women’s rights aren’t true feminists but the ones who are are fucking without birthcontrol pills are
09.09.08 at 8:20 am
University of ottowa? hebrew jewtastic school for israelites? Former winnipeg climatologist? Who the hell put this mob of know nothings together?
09.09.08 at 8:34 am
@ Loomis
1 & 3 – Greenspirit Strategies Ltd. is his PR company founded to help business and governments ‘incorporate the green agenda’. He worked for Burson Marsteller the fifth largest Pr company in the world who have long and lovely client list (look it up). Of course he does soundbites, he’ll do whatever it takes to get his client’s message across because that’s how he makes his money.
@ 2, I think its important to look at who pays him. It gives an indication of where his information is coming from and the agenda he is promoting which brings us to facts.
I like facts too. That’s why I have a problem with his ‘facts’; they always seem to suit the needs of his client base. Whether or not there maybe any verifiable accuracy to these messages is tainted with political and financial bias on his part. There is quite a strong record of him not letting good scientific research stand in the way of the ‘facts’. And his articles are always curiously light on good referencing and publicly available data also. Which brings me to reiterate:
I like to read research in accredited scientific and peer reviewed journals, please please please link me to Moore’s supposedly extensive body of academic work and or bibliographic references in any scientific journal for the past 15 to 20 years, cos I’m having trouble finding anything. Any time I do come across a very brief reference to him its calling shenanigan on publicity drives he is associated with. (reg genetic engineering, felling of forests in Australia and assessment of deforestation in the amazon). I don’t expect him to do any on the ground research but if he is building a factual spine for his arguments then you would expect him to have some fucking facts and figures presented in more credible than just that fucking self-published dreck entitled ‘Tree’s are the Answer’ or a 30 minute powerpoint presentation. And have you actually read that book? My heart bleeds rusty piss for you, you bag of bum gravy, it reads like the Celestine Prophecy for lumberjacks.
09.09.08 at 9:31 am
did people actually read the celestine prophecy
why, because it was on the bestseller’s list?
here’s a prophecy:
all the enviros and green movement people will all be rounded up and shot, Okaaayye
LET’S MAKE IT COME TRUE
09.09.08 at 10:56 am
this shit fucking sucks! where’s the tits STREETBONERS? BONERS? TITTIES? FISH? TITTYFISH?
09.09.08 at 11:25 am
whoreshit.com – green social dating experiment
09.09.08 at 4:23 pm
Aw, man don’t do that.
Spoilt rich kids with ridiculous names are funny, but so is “the nicene council” (I’d have hoped you’d have pointed that out), and climate change is not.
09.10.08 at 9:00 am