Are you kidding me? Look at this fucking sign!
No baggie jeans?
No long white tees?
No Timberlands?
It’s too obvious who they’re talking about, amirite?
I mean, why not just say:
“WELL ONLY patrons whose great great grandfathers were eligible to own land in this district may enter!”
or
“Only those whose father’s father’s fathers DIED with the right of suffrage may drink herein.”
or
“Please: Watering hole intended for those persons whose ancestors were NOT sold to this country by their more cunning and cutthroat countrymen. ”
Right? Right? Say it out loud — answer the question: Am I right?
NO, I’m not fuckin’ right, see, I just wanted to get you to say that shit.
How many times do I have to explain this to you: IF you assume that this sign means Black People®, then YOU’RE part of the fuckin’ problem.
YOU associate black people with being dressed like Ol Dirty Bastid.
Tell me this: Could I enter this bar? YES, I could, and I’m blacks as a muthafuckin’ venti chai tea latte with foam. See, I’d be allowed in because I’m not down with some thug-ass bullshit which dictates wearing a dishtowel on my head like Tupac and Mohamed Atta.
Conversely, could Eminem enter this bar? Wrong again: Yes, he COULD because he’s famous and all muthafuckin’ rules go out the winda.
Why don’t you go picket the hundreds of far more classist and discriminatory NYC clubs and restaurants that control THEIR scenes by enforcing dress codes and that require MONEY be spent to join their shit?
Ever try to enter The Harvard Club without a jacket? Nigga please, why do you think that sneaker wearin’ grungy muthafucka was stuck burying gooks in walls at YALE?
The owners of this bar have every right to control their scene in exactly the same way — as gay as it sounds, they’re correct: “They have a right to be selective.”
As someone smart pointed out, here’s a similarly restrictive dress code:
“Dress Code: no sneakers, no jerseys, no baseball caps, no do-rags, no work boots”
Care to guess where that’s from?
40/40 club web page.
Owned by RAPPER Jay-Z.
Anyway, it’s too bad the bar took the sign down, but who can blame them? They were facing a 90s style witch hunt by the fags at Gothamist and AlSharptonNeedsWork.org.
And I thought having a black president would end the insanity; the fuck was I thinking, nga plz.
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awsome
09.23.09 at 12:11 pm
Thug Life!
09.23.09 at 12:13 pm
Damn, I will admit this is one of the only times in my life that I’ve had my mind changed by something I read. My first assumsion wa that it was racist as fuck.
Great post.
09.23.09 at 12:14 pm
damn bn. good post.
09.23.09 at 12:17 pm
You make a lot of sense today white man, but you’re still a dumb fuck who can’t rite for shite
09.23.09 at 12:21 pm
i see what you did there!
excellent post bn
09.23.09 at 12:28 pm
what that sign says is “if you dress like a piece of shit don’t come in.” Tall White-Ts and baggy jeans are gross and resemble the only clothing you’re allowed to wear… you know in prison. Take that shit off. You want to go to a club? Put on some hard bottoms. You want to wear a hat? Fine get a nice, brimmed wool something or the other.
I can only wish life had this dress code.
09.23.09 at 12:28 pm
Nicely handled, Blognigger!
Reminds me of my old graduate school colleague who actually was the person to introduce me to NWA. White girl from Minnesota. No lie. Schooly D too!
One of her experiments was to show people written lyrics from a song. The lyrics were judged by a statistically significant majority to be from rap lyrics [http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199707/bad-rap].
But no. The lyrics were not from “Cop Killer” by Body Count but from…huh?…”Bad Man’s Blunder,” a 1950s folk song by the [Lily White] Kingston Trio. Tracy Marrow was still shittin’ diapers the Tuesday that joint dropped.
You are hereby granted honorary Ph.D. in social psychology.
They’re scared of us, B!
09.23.09 at 12:31 pm
Total bullshit bn, and just because you’re black doesn’t mean you get to decide:
The owners of the bar KNOW that most people who wear this stuff are black, and so it’s a convenient way for them to barr the “unsavory” element from entering their place of business.
It’s an extremely sneaky and racist approach, and I’m ashamed FOR YOU that you’re too trusting or eager to please or whatever to see it.
09.23.09 at 12:35 pm
Short, sweet, and informative…not to mention totally in line with my personal world view. I feel like I just came. Not sure that I actually believe that you feel this way (aka care about me when you give me a reach around), but who cares? I got off. Time for a cig break.
Oh, and you know why they don’t allow people in who dress like that? Sag busters don’t buy drinks and they chase away all the people who do buy drinks. My uncle owns a really cool bar. It’s standard industry knowledge. Thug ass bitches are cheap AND they drive the good clientele away by grinding and slobbering all over the good women and in general looking like shit. You got no style, assface. GTFO. Then when they can’t get laid they start fucking fights, and they’re not mano y mano, they’re big ass fight everybody fights. The idiots bring the cops around. They’ll also use YOUR establishment as a store for their fucking drug trade. FUCK them. You know how much a fucking liquor license costs? In the state of Ohio it runs something like 30K… minimum. Get your own fucking bar motherfucker. People invest way too much of their lives in their establishments to have to put up with your bullshit.
09.23.09 at 12:36 pm
there’s a bar called boss tweeds on essex btw delancey and rivington with a similar sign…this isn’t all that out of the ordinary, but i still think it’s kinda fucked…it should just read NO THUGS PLZ
09.23.09 at 12:38 pm
Just ignore Vane$$a.
09.23.09 at 12:38 pm
As the bar is in the south side, my guess the sign was designed for the local Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. Still B.S. but a distinction worth making?
09.23.09 at 12:51 pm
If it’s in Williamsburg, they’re probably more concerned with a lot of Spanish dudes coming in rather than a lot of black dudes. Like oh lawd kind of just suggested.
09.23.09 at 12:52 pm
you have writen prvious occasions that you live in New York. but you diddnt’ explainn why you was in “Commenwelth” of Virginnia for williamsbrg. such a incomplette writer of “blogging”. but even in China we know of race “issue’ of Virginia. you should not go to wear you do not belloing.
but private bisnesses should not be makking individual rules and law but NATIONAL GOVVERNMENT should have all respponsibility for rules and law. you see mister you createing your own “discrimination” and “race-ism” for the black. you should leave rule and law to new black socialism pressident.
from preck!
09.23.09 at 12:59 pm
two thumbs up. way up.
09.23.09 at 1:02 pm
the restrictions are to keep gangbangalangs out of posh night clubs and in boston posh bowling alleys! What the fuck is a posh bowling alley? I wonder the same thing. A bunch of us got turned away on the hoody charge and at that I looked the bouncer straight in the eye and stated the obvious “This is a fucking bowling alley you douche”
09.23.09 at 1:13 pm
Vane$$a types as if she knows something about anything.
09.23.09 at 1:17 pm
yo, they got signs all over the bars and nightclubs in bangcock that basically say the same thing except they read “No Lady Boys!”, cause those princesses chase drunk tourists around until their too blind to tell the difference and get in nasty hair pulling cat scratching clouds of brawl if they dont get any dick.
09.23.09 at 1:22 pm
BN, you are wrong. That sign is complete and total rascism. No long white tees? GTFO. I bet you all the money in the world they let whites who wear similar items pass and stop any black man in a second. It’s easy to discount this and “we’re trying to keep out thugs.” Maybe it is “thug style” when someone is wearing it all at the same time, but listing the items separately gives them the right to profile.
I worked the door at one of these places and white dudes with chains got right in, black dudes with chains had to tip hundred dollar bills AND buy tables to get entrance. It was disgusting. I’m anti thug as much as the next person and Vanessa is right about the $ and clientele thing but give me a break on the rest of that BS.
The sign is still rascist.
09.23.09 at 1:32 pm
You gotta keep the straight folks out some how…
09.23.09 at 1:35 pm
fuck Gothamist. fuck it right in the ear.
09.23.09 at 1:38 pm
good point. by the same token, i’d be allowed into a bar that said “no pussies” while you would not. sexism schmexism.
09.23.09 at 1:46 pm
BLIPSTERS ONLY!!!!!!
09.23.09 at 1:57 pm
@ vanessa
you know how you said “get your own fucking bar motherfucker?” switch the word “bar” with the word “blog” and apply to self.
09.23.09 at 1:58 pm
I just dont get the need for a sign, it just shows the management are fucking pussies.
09.23.09 at 1:59 pm
Danielle, you are on another planet.
09.23.09 at 2:05 pm
there’s a similar sign posted outside of porky’s in new york city. signs like that should deter you from wanting to go inside. period.
09.23.09 at 2:08 pm
follow eminem on twitter. hehehehe.
09.23.09 at 2:13 pm
also: what’s a fitted hat? like a knit cap? i don’t wear hats so i have no idea. like a ski mask?
09.23.09 at 2:16 pm
A fitted hat is a baseball cap minus the adjustable strap in the back.
09.23.09 at 2:19 pm
Maybe they’re trying to keep out guidos that come round from Staten Island way?
09.23.09 at 2:21 pm
the funny thing is, the blacker the club, the more dress code rules. last week, a buddy had his birthday party at a local dance-bar kinda place. it happened to be black night and they wouldn’t let me in because i was wearing a white t-shirt. shit, ive gone to black clubs all coked up a couple of times and they make you do the weirdest shit like take the keys off my belt, tuck in my shirt, take off my hat, yadayadayada. just like any teach-for-america fool will tell you; it’s because black people need discipline. also, if i owned a bar, i sure as shi8t wouldn’t want thuggish types in there, bn can come and hang out but too many blacks decrease real estate value and make the tipping whites not want to come in
09.23.09 at 2:22 pm
They afraid all the dumpy hipster white chix is gonna run off with all the NIGGAZ.
09.23.09 at 2:24 pm
@Yacki: I’m glad you are going the other way. I think I’ll walk right in, and have a nice drink in peace. If I want to overhear conversations that start with, “When I was locked up…”, I’ll walk out my front door and stand on the corner at any fucking hour of every fucking day.
09.23.09 at 2:31 pm
Danielle, if you’re going to ascend a tiny soapbox and accuse people of racism, could you at least spell “racist” correctly? Seriously…is that asking too much?
09.23.09 at 2:34 pm
Balkanize America.
09.23.09 at 2:37 pm
Yeah, what’s up with people spelling “racist” as “rascist?” Even that chick with the boycrazy vids did that on page 2 of her site in some lame-O anti-racism treatise.
09.23.09 at 2:39 pm
I’m a cunt.
09.23.09 at 2:41 pm
That sign is human nature.
09.23.09 at 2:41 pm
You had me until you said “fags” – can’t preach when you maintain the hate. just because it’s your hate don’t make it right
09.23.09 at 2:56 pm
The worst part of this sign is the poor usage and spelling.
“Baggie” jeans would be made entirely of Zip-locks or spent 20-bags.
Which would warrant a Boner.
09.23.09 at 3:00 pm
A brand new club in Houston Texas(NOT rural Texas but inside a city) has a strict no blacks policy.
http://www.houstonpress.com/2009-09-03/music/mindfreak
This sign seems to represent more of a hatred of ‘hip hop’ culture, not so much for the club owner in Houston.
Also does it make it OK to discriminate if the said discrimination is against a group of which you belong, in some form?
Are Spades still Spades, or what?
09.23.09 at 3:11 pm
a rascist is a combo of racist/fascist. the term refers to one who wants absolute authoritah over black people. like, they hate them and they seek to rule them with an iron fist.
basically, most white people.
09.23.09 at 3:17 pm
dude i can’t even figure out how to rule my undies drawer, let alone any people…with an “iron fist” to boot.
09.23.09 at 3:22 pm
Hey anonymous-
The (vast) majority of white people couldn’t give 2 shits about blacks, let alone want to “rule them w/ an iron fist” (you’re a fucking idiot)
This doesn’t apply in 2 situations:
1. Blacks are robbing your house
2. White males looking at porn
09.23.09 at 3:33 pm
WOW you are an idiot:
March of Crimez Says:
You had me until you said “fags” – can’t preach when you maintain the hate. just because it’s your hate don’t make it right
As if the word “fags” is meant hatefully against homosexuals. You know you lie – you know you think the sign is racist – yer a PC gothamist fag and it shows.
09.23.09 at 3:37 pm
@drippy dog dix and cum bubbles or something: just because you dress a certain way doesn’t necessarily mean you’ve been locked up. most of the articles of clothing on that list are worn more frequently by men than women. therefore, if you want to be at a bar with metrosexuals/hipsters…then so be it.
09.23.09 at 3:38 pm
capt. douche? you need to be promoted to admiral shitbag for that comment, you clueles hole.
09.23.09 at 3:43 pm
I hate black people. Wheres this bar?
09.23.09 at 3:45 pm
@JR Ewing Yes, I’ll spellcheck next time if that’s what assholes on this site need.
@Turd Ferguson I’m laughing so hard because I noticed that today when I read her blog and then turned around and made the same “rascist” mistake myself. I guess I’m an asshole too.
09.23.09 at 3:58 pm
If that bar were populated with thug black dudes, all of those fags at Gothamist sure as spaghetti wouldn’t step foot in it. “Oh no! You’re overtly racist bar policy is awful! Let’s stick to our usual covert racism by refusing to mingle with blacks except in situations were we tell them that there music is bad for them and it removes their ability to be an independent thinker and they turn in to a thug-automoton. Because only us white folk have the know how to solve the problems with black culture.” Stuff it up your asses you over-caring, over-sharing, overbearing, under performing cock-gobblers.
09.23.09 at 3:58 pm
I was going to say that looks like the restrictions at most hip-hops clubs.
09.23.09 at 3:59 pm
Dear people who have a problem with this sign,
do you dress this way? Do you have friends that dress this way? If not, why? Is Jay-Z racist for enforcing the exact same rules as Hugs? Unless you can prove that Hugs specifically allows whites dressed this way and not blacks you shouldn’t rely on anecdotal evidence about other clubs, because that has nothing to do with Hugs.
09.23.09 at 4:07 pm
My home town shoppers drug mart keeps the ethnic hair products behind the counter with the ipods. seriously – 3 dollar afrosheen – away from sticky fingaz
thats way more racist then this, also in williamsburg, the dress code to keep out the drunk agro Pollacks not the Blacks and Hispanics…
09.23.09 at 4:20 pm
Is that a pubic hair on my Coke can?
09.23.09 at 4:27 pm
Why the fuck would a tired ass hip-hop dressing jagoff of any color want to go to a hipster bar? They’re just being shit starting assholes showing up there in the first place. This isn’t West Side Story. I seriously doubt that you’ll find willing accomplices in the hipster nation to do Jets vs. Sharks Part II. What sucks though is that the bar owners caved to the media and took the sign down. Freedom ain’t nothin’ but a mirage up in this country, and no, freedom doesn’t mean that you can walk into my crib and take a dump on the floor. It means that I’m free to keep my crib as a haven where life is as I would hope for it to be. Create your own bar and your own reality. Embrace the incredible amount of work it requires to make it successful. Oh, but that’s right, if you did that the only people who would come to your bar would be the no tipping, no drinking, shit starting motherfuckers that you call friends. Might as well just buy some plywood when you get the keys.
Streetcarnage equivalent of this sign: You are posting comments too quickly. VERY inhospitable.
09.23.09 at 4:38 pm
hell yea.
09.23.09 at 4:48 pm
“dude i can’t even figure out how to rule my undies drawer, let alone any people…with an “iron fist” to boot.”
that comment by the usually uninsightful vaina$$a nicely sums up the way most white people feel about racism and their role in it. They’ just like: “I have no money. I’m in debt up to my ass. I own nothing. I hold zero influence over anyone or anything. All I hope for in life is a few good moments between shifts at the life-sucking grind. My ancestors were also as poor as death and sure as shit could never afford to buy slaves, let alone shoes. I voted for Obama. Yet, I’m somehow racist because I want to chill in a bar with my kind of people? How the fuck did that happen? How did I become the villain in this equation?”
09.23.09 at 4:59 pm
@r tard: Makes a really good point. There are as many Polish, thug, dumbfucks dressed exactly like this in the general area as Puerto Ricans, or blacks.
@yacki: Your response to me was incoherent.
09.23.09 at 5:00 pm
yeah but if it was intended to keep out the pollacks why didn’t they just say so? i’m sure that if they had the gothamist and all the rest would have retracted their complaints with a firm “nevermind, proceed as you wish. they’re only talking about dumb white people.”
09.23.09 at 5:07 pm
so called “new yorkers” complain about everything.
PS- Cosby settled all of this years ago.
09.23.09 at 5:53 pm
“Black People®”
I love it.
09.23.09 at 6:46 pm
@Maybelline
I fucking love you comment.
09.23.09 at 7:09 pm
Why do you assume it’s aimed at blacks or Hispanics? Maybe it is to keep out those stupid white kids that try to act ghetto. I think THAT would be a worthy endeavor. HAHAHAHA
09.23.09 at 7:20 pm
I live in Mobile, AL and almost every bar/club has some variation of this sign out front.
09.23.09 at 8:08 pm
@Maybelline
could be the smartest motherfucker in the Street Carnage nation
09.23.09 at 8:36 pm
I’m just stunned at Danelle an anyone who would say this is racist…… Ya gotta black president in chrge of the whole fuckin free world ain’t that enough ??!
09.23.09 at 8:47 pm
This site is so much better when people are taking mental craps all over the comment section.
09.23.09 at 9:05 pm
bollocks.
09.23.09 at 9:08 pm
“”Ever try to enter The Harvard Club without a jacket? Nigga please, why do you think that sneaker wearin’ grungy muthafucka was stuck burying gooks in walls at YALE?”"
bwaaahahahahahahahahahahaha
09.23.09 at 9:13 pm
the gook comment is in truly poor taste. creep.
also, hey, this bar’s sign is obnoxious, they shouldn’t put that up.
09.23.09 at 9:45 pm
I know guys who dress like this. All that’s missing is the shoe string belts. They live in Whistler, they pick fights with other guys, they run out of the bar without paying: they’re Australian. Fuck them.
09.23.09 at 9:56 pm
When I saw that sign, I thought to myself “I could definitely get into this place ’cause I don’t wear that bullshit” but I also thought “They really are trying to keep their establishment lily-white though”
Although it’s tongue in cheek and comedic in nature, it’s exactly the kind of dialogue this country needs to be having about race. People are too quick to change the subject and treat race relations like the 800 pound elephant in the room…
09.23.09 at 10:13 pm
After all my years of buying into all of this crap, I just had a mutha-fuckkin’, ball shrinkin’, nauseating realization> NEW YORK IS FUCKING LAME. Especially Williamsburg. There, I said it. I’m sorry.
09.23.09 at 10:15 pm
You mean that people over twenty wear that shit? I mean, I wore a hoodie today, but I was hiking in the mountains in drizzle.
09.23.09 at 10:33 pm
1. @Sheepish: Me too. *blush*
2. After the well deserved smack upside the head sunk in, I gotta say, a bar without nitwits like that would be nice. Up here in Alaska, 99.9% of the folks fitting that description would be white kids, and fuck they’re obnoxious when they’re shitfaced.
3. All the venti chai tea lattes I’ve seen where way paler than Barack Obama. Now, a 12oz quad latte … THAT would be dark.
09.24.09 at 12:41 am
Scumbags dress like that. They don’t want scum in their bar.
09.24.09 at 1:39 am
It’s not being racist, just discriminating. This particular bar hated on bros but they made the mistake of not realizing how bros appropriate mud race culture more than white trash.
09.24.09 at 3:53 am
That was a gratuitous use of the g-word but its true that Raymond Clark was probably enraged by class rejection.
09.24.09 at 4:15 am
It took you this long to spot one of these? Are vaugely racist dress codes one trend that DC is ahead of NYC on? Inconceivable! I hate to say it but when you bartend you see way more stereotypes confirmed than debunked. Though there does seem to be a certain class of black folk who seem determined to reverse the stigma by going out of their way to be chill and tip well. Hats off to those brave trendsetters, and Howard University in general.
09.24.09 at 4:51 am
old.
09.24.09 at 4:57 am
Hmmmm…just think of all that ink and paper they wasted when they could have simply wrote a sign that said: “No Retards, Niggaz, or Skanks of Any Race Allowed.”
09.24.09 at 7:13 am
The concept of chronological age is completely outdated. What we need to do is come up with a test that determines emotional age and define societal restrictions based on that. Then we make everyone take the test once a year and carry around an ID that contains their real-time age (for medical purposes) and their emotional age (for everything else). That way we can keep the drinking age at 21, but kids who are under 21 yet mature beyond their years will be able to enter bars. At the same time, the retards who are past 21 but who act, think, and dress like they’re 3 years old will be stuck at home playing video games until they grow up. A rule like this will also provide tons of incentive for people to grow the fuck up, develop their minds, not be cunts, etc.
09.24.09 at 7:20 am
I knew Mike Jack was still alive, wih I could say the same about patrick gayze
09.24.09 at 9:40 am
This issue once again highlights the difference between a “black” and a “nigger”.
Anyone who wears clothing specified on that sign is a nigger. I don’t care if your skin is whiter than a Klansman’s robe. If you wear a t-shirt that’s long enough to be a dress and a flat-brimmed baseball cap with the sticker still on the bill, you’re a NIGGER.
On the other hand, you could have skin blacker than the inside of a horse’s asshole at midnight on a moonless night, and if you wear clothes that actually fit you and act like a respectable human being then you’re farther away from being a nigger than most suburban white kids.
To quote one of the black Fab Four – “quit frontin’!”
09.24.09 at 11:04 am
I don’t think it’s about race. I think it’s about idiots.
I know plenty of white people that dress that way and act like fucking idiots.
09.24.09 at 2:00 pm
@about to be accused of being racist guy
no, you’re about to be accused of not reading the post OR a single comment on the thread.
09.24.09 at 2:13 pm
@Donkey Kong
I’m high and eating Cap’n Crunch and your last comment make me snarf!
El oh el!
09.24.09 at 2:16 pm
Wow, Im such a brain backward pile of shit. I came on here thinking I knew what everything was and thinking I was groundbreaking and adventurous. I read five lines of the article and tried to respond. Turns out I’m an empty wannabe faggot with a tiny dick and no future.
I’ll end it now. For GOOD.
09.24.09 at 5:46 pm
Add to sign: No AIDS
09.25.09 at 12:53 pm
Hello people, this sign are rules for a bar in WILLIAMSBURG. That area is FILLED with hipsters and of that sort. Anyone who lives in New York or have been/lives in Williamsburg KNOWS that this is true and is one of New York’s “trendy” areas. If anything, they are guilty of being favoritism against poor fashion in their own mind.
They’re exercising the right to be selective.
09.25.09 at 8:52 pm
Dee dee dee
09.25.09 at 9:00 pm
Hello? Of course everyone’s gonna think that sign means ‘No Blacks Allowed’ because the headline caption you put on the article reads ‘No Blacks Allowed’. You set us up! See, now I can’t even tell if I’m racist because I can’t know what my first reaction would have been if you hadn’t written that.
09.25.09 at 10:23 pm
@ A NANO MOOSE-
Yes You are right, Williamsburg is totes fakkin’ Lamoshian. Fuckin Right Jiggity On or… err. sorry. Fuck.
09.25.09 at 11:02 pm
IF the sign said “No Niggers” and you think that’s racist then you’re part of the problem. You people make me sick.
09.30.09 at 12:53 pm
I’m with Black Dickolson on this one.
10.04.09 at 3:43 pm
I am an African American and I am really pro black … black power and everything, but I am sick and tired of the white tees, knit scarf wraps, hanging or sagging pants. It is just time out and time for change and everyone is tired of the attire and the explotation of Hip Hip on Black males. It is time for a change and frankling, I don’t blame them. If you are dress like this, there is no economy behind you and why cater to them.
08.02.10 at 12:49 am
This gotta be some crap…ugh….they crazii
11.10.10 at 11:56 am